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WHITEWASH OF BLACK COAL
Mr. DeFazio:
Please vote against all Federal funding of “Clean Coal” and support funding of syngas and biochar from biomass. See: http://algaloildiesel.wetpaint.com/page/SYNGAS+AND+BIOCHAR .
The exchange of email below demonstrates the that NETL is the captive research agency of the coal industry. The burden of proof of “clean coal” is on the coal industry, not the U.S. Taxpayers. Let the coal industry pay for R & D on clean coal. Please note that the NETL argument about “abundance” of coal is a fraud. By growing biomass; selective harvest of forest slash, dead trees and non-commercial trees; recycled municipal waste, agricultural waste, and growing algae, we will have a tremendous “abundance” of biomass. Extracting coal involves horrendous environmental damage while sourcing biomass does not.
From: Cynthia Powell Cynthia.Powell@NETL.DOE.GOV
To: "Jim Miller" jimmiller5417@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 1:57 PM
Thanks Jim for the clarification on the acronym. In answer to your question regarding a "built in bias to favor coal companies," the NETL is a federal research laboratory, with a mission to advance the necessary science and technology to ensure a clean and secure energy future for our Nation. Yes, we focus a lot of our R&D efforts on coal, because of its relative abundance in the US, and the near-term opportunity it offers to reduce our Nation's dependence on foreign energy sources. We are also looking at coal and biomass/coal blends for the production of syngas for a variety of energy products (electricity, hydrogen, liquid fuels, etc). I am not aware of research at NETL that focuses exclusively on biomass to produce syngas, but this is somewhat outside my area of expertise in materials engineering. For a more complete answer to your specific question regarding CHP and biomass, I will refer you to Dr. Geo Richards, who leads our R&D efforts in Energy System Dynamics. His phone number in Morgantown, WV, is 304-285-4458. I have also cc'd him on this email so that you will have his address.
Best regards,
Cindy.
Cindy Powell
U.S. Department of Energy National Energy Technology Laboratory
ALBANY, OR
1450 Queen Avenue SW
Albany, OR 97321-2198
541-967-5892
cynthia.powell@netl.doe.gov
Ms. Powell
Clean coal is a myth. See: http://www.thisisreality.org/#/?p=canary
Why should the U.S. taxpayers do research which the coal companies should undertake? The burden is proof is on the coal industry and not on the U.S. taxpayers. Why not switch from "clean (not) coal" to clean biomass which will give us green fuel as well as biochar, the "black gold" of agriculture?
See: Isolating Unique Bacteria from Terra Preta Systems: Culturing and Molecular Tools for Characterizing Microbial Life
http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/oneillbac
Best regards, Jim Miller
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INFINITY TURBINES CO GEN
Youtube video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFBnGCm5QKs&eurl=http://www.worldofcogeneration.com/
Mr. Greg Giese
Energy and Infinity Turbine LLC
P.O. Box 5617
Madison, WI 53705 USA
TEL: (608) 238-6001
FAX (240) 525-2445
http://infinityturbine.com/ORC/Waste_Heat_Turbine.html
greg@infinityturbine.com
These CHP units require external heat which can come from a heat exchanger on the stack of a biomass syngas generator, or from burning the syngas in a boiler. Producer syngas from biomass can be further process into separate streams of gases and liquids, using the the ligher gases as fuel to heat the fluid in the Rankine Cycle generator. Organic Rankine Cycle Main article: Organic Rankine Cycle The organic Rankine cycle (ORC) uses an organic fluid such as pentane[2] or butane[3] in place of water and steam.
This allows use of lower-temperature heat sources, such as solar ponds, which typically operate at around 70–90 °C[4]. The efficiency of the cycle is much lower as a result of the lower temperature range, but this can be worthwhile because of the lower cost involved in gathering heat at this lower temperature. Alternatively, fluids can be used that have boiling points above water, and this may have thermodynamic benefits. The Rankine cycle does not restrict the working fluid in its definition, so the inclusion of an "organic" cycle is simply a marketing concept that should not be regarded as a separate thermodynamic cycle.
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See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankine_cycle
The article I read, [NETL120308.pdf (23KB)] mentioned gasification of coal which is being pushed by the coal companies and involves extreme environmental damage, while syngas from ag waste does not. So, does NETL have a built in bias in favor of the coal companies, or is it open to studies of syngas from biomass?
Please vote against all Federal funding of “Clean Coal” and support funding of syngas and biochar from biomass. See: http://algaloildiesel.wetpaint.com/page/SYNGAS+AND+BIOCHAR .
The exchange of email below demonstrates the that NETL is the captive research agency of the coal industry. The burden of proof of “clean coal” is on the coal industry, not the U.S. Taxpayers. Let the coal industry pay for R & D on clean coal. Please note that the NETL argument about “abundance” of coal is a fraud. By growing biomass; selective harvest of forest slash, dead trees and non-commercial trees; recycled municipal waste, agricultural waste, and growing algae, we will have a tremendous “abundance” of biomass. Extracting coal involves horrendous environmental damage while sourcing biomass does not.
From: Cynthia Powell Cynthia.Powell@NETL.DOE.GOV
To: "Jim Miller" jimmiller5417@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 1:57 PM
Thanks Jim for the clarification on the acronym. In answer to your question regarding a "built in bias to favor coal companies," the NETL is a federal research laboratory, with a mission to advance the necessary science and technology to ensure a clean and secure energy future for our Nation. Yes, we focus a lot of our R&D efforts on coal, because of its relative abundance in the US, and the near-term opportunity it offers to reduce our Nation's dependence on foreign energy sources. We are also looking at coal and biomass/coal blends for the production of syngas for a variety of energy products (electricity, hydrogen, liquid fuels, etc). I am not aware of research at NETL that focuses exclusively on biomass to produce syngas, but this is somewhat outside my area of expertise in materials engineering. For a more complete answer to your specific question regarding CHP and biomass, I will refer you to Dr. Geo Richards, who leads our R&D efforts in Energy System Dynamics. His phone number in Morgantown, WV, is 304-285-4458. I have also cc'd him on this email so that you will have his address.
Best regards,
Cindy.
Cindy Powell
U.S. Department of Energy National Energy Technology Laboratory
ALBANY, OR
1450 Queen Avenue SW
Albany, OR 97321-2198
541-967-5892
cynthia.powell@netl.doe.gov
Ms. Powell
Clean coal is a myth. See: http://www.thisisreality.org/#/?p=canary
Why should the U.S. taxpayers do research which the coal companies should undertake? The burden is proof is on the coal industry and not on the U.S. taxpayers. Why not switch from "clean (not) coal" to clean biomass which will give us green fuel as well as biochar, the "black gold" of agriculture?
See: Isolating Unique Bacteria from Terra Preta Systems: Culturing and Molecular Tools for Characterizing Microbial Life
http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/oneillbac
Best regards, Jim Miller
--------------------------------\
INFINITY TURBINES CO GEN
Youtube video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFBnGCm5QKs&eurl=http://www.worldofcogeneration.com/
Mr. Greg Giese
Energy and Infinity Turbine LLC
P.O. Box 5617
Madison, WI 53705 USA
TEL: (608) 238-6001
FAX (240) 525-2445
http://infinityturbine.com/ORC/Waste_Heat_Turbine.html
greg@infinityturbine.com
These CHP units require external heat which can come from a heat exchanger on the stack of a biomass syngas generator, or from burning the syngas in a boiler. Producer syngas from biomass can be further process into separate streams of gases and liquids, using the the ligher gases as fuel to heat the fluid in the Rankine Cycle generator. Organic Rankine Cycle Main article: Organic Rankine Cycle The organic Rankine cycle (ORC) uses an organic fluid such as pentane[2] or butane[3] in place of water and steam.
This allows use of lower-temperature heat sources, such as solar ponds, which typically operate at around 70–90 °C[4]. The efficiency of the cycle is much lower as a result of the lower temperature range, but this can be worthwhile because of the lower cost involved in gathering heat at this lower temperature. Alternatively, fluids can be used that have boiling points above water, and this may have thermodynamic benefits. The Rankine cycle does not restrict the working fluid in its definition, so the inclusion of an "organic" cycle is simply a marketing concept that should not be regarded as a separate thermodynamic cycle.
------------------------------------
See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankine_cycle
The article I read, [NETL120308.pdf (23KB)] mentioned gasification of coal which is being pushed by the coal companies and involves extreme environmental damage, while syngas from ag waste does not. So, does NETL have a built in bias in favor of the coal companies, or is it open to studies of syngas from biomass?
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